JohanBTZ skrev:
jG KOMMER LÄTT UR POSSITION i min cutback. antingen så hamnar jag för högt och "kliver av vågen" eller så tappar jag all fart och kommer inte tillbaka till curlen.

jep, what sverre said,

du startar din cutback för sent..om du startar den tidigare, och du ändå tappar fart så tänk på att håll dig lägre och håll blicka tillbaka.

sverre skrev:
JohanBTZ skrev:
jG KOMMER LÄTT UR POSSITION i min cutback. antingen så hamnar jag för högt och "kliver av vågen" eller så tappar jag all fart och kommer inte tillbaka till curlen.

aj aj aj... det här måste vi lösa..

Det låter som att du påbörjar din cutback för sent isåfall. Den ska ju göras från högt på vågen, MEN du måste påbörja den medan du har fart.
Sen är det viktiga att ha en bra linje genom hela! Inte tvärvända, men inte heller för utdragen sväng.

När tajmingen är rätt, dvs, när du har genererat fart så du åkt ifrån vågen måste du direkt påbörja svängen. Vrid huvudet, var du tittar så kommer kroppen följa efter, tänk på att vrida hela axelpartiet runt, håll blicken stadigt mot den del av läppen du siktar på, följ din linje... håll i , och sen när du har riktning emot där du vill träffa, läppen eller strax innan är det bara att vrida tillbaka åt andra hållet, i detta läge är farten minst men din vändning genererar ny fart från läppen eller från vågens face..

Good luck trying it



Grymt.....

I have another equipment question that I planed to post on the forum some time. Its about fins.

I have a 6'6", 19 ½ wide Nord Fish-style that I use for about any size waves. I like it for its ability to paddle fast and catch waves easy. My problem is when it gets big like DOH. The flat rocker (i guess) make the board gain shit lodes of speed and kind of sit on top of the water and feel very nervous. I have a set of G3 fins on it which is smaller then normal/recommended (G5), But I like it in most surf.

*If I put bigger fins on to gain stability wouldn't that mean that I would get even more speed?
*Is there anything that I can do to adapt the board for bigger waves?
*I've seen some guns with a bigger center fin, how would that affect the board?

I'm of course thinking of buying a board for HH+ waves, but that question we can take some other time...

Thankful for any input

/Qanik

Qanik skrev:
I have another equipment question that I planed to post on the forum some time. Its about fins.

I have a 6'6", 19 ½ wide Nord Fish-style that I use for about any size waves. I like it for its ability to paddle fast and catch waves easy. My problem is when it gets big like DOH. The flat rocker (i guess) make the board gain shit lodes of speed and kind of sit on top of the water and feel very nervous. I have a set of G3 fins on it which is smaller then normal/recommended (G5), But I like it in most surf.

*If I put bigger fins on to gain stability wouldn't that mean that I would get even more speed?
*Is there anything that I can do to adapt the board for bigger waves?
*I've seen some guns with a bigger center fin, how would that affect the board?

I'm of course thinking of buying a board for HH+ waves, but that question we can take some other time...

Thankful for any input

/Qanik

Bigger fins will cause more drag and will give you more control, you are probably enjoying the stability of the width in the board coupled with the responsiveness of having small fins in the small stuff. But when i'ts bigger, you just aren't sitting in the water deep enough. Much bigger fins will help you out a bit with medium size surf, for a board like that and for a dude over 85 k go with m7 sized fins at least.

You asked about bigger fins making the board go faster, this isn't exactly true, but it is in a sense as well. Fins actually slow you down and cause drag, but because of it, you can project more with them. think of small fins as first gear on a car, a little gas and you get a quick acceleration. With big fins it's more like 5th gear, you have to put in more gas, but then you get out more distance.

Small fins big fins is an interesting topic for small wave surfing. Some people claim that bigger fins are good because in smaller surf you have to project more from the fins, whereas in bigger you project more from the rail (mini gun fins are way smaller than fish fins for example)
But when you get into really minimal conditions, big fins might drag too much before you can even push them (sort of like trying to drive in 5th gear before you are even up to speed)
the solution is simple, if you have a small board, you need to work its responsiveness with small fins in small surf. if you have a fatter, stubbier small wave board, you need to put in more fin to counteract the added bouyancy and help project you. Make sense?

As for putting in a bigger back fin in those nord fishes, (if it's the one i am thinking of which is essentially a copy of the Lost RNF), this is probably not a good idea, those boards were made as down the line skates and are actually probably best ridden with two big side fins and a puny back one. the only reason why you'd want to ride it as a thruster is so you can square your bottom turns a little more backside

Vill bara flika in på det Perry, Plåtis och Sharky skrev om.

Jag började min surfing med en Al Merrik Flyer 2 som var ordentligt stor - 6.10x21x2 3/4... När jag skulle köpa ny "liten" bräda förra hösten så frågade jag Sharky om råd gällande storleken. Var lite tveksam när han rådde mig till att köra 6.6 x 20 1/4 x 2 7/8 på Red Beautyn. Alldeles för litet tänkte jag. Men brädan visade sig ta vågor lättare än min Flyer. Dessutom var det lättare att ta sig omkring i vattnet, dvs positionera sig så man låg rätt inför takeoff. Inte så mycket bräda att svänga runt. Det var den brädan du testade Plåtis. Helt klart den skönaste bräda jag stått på. Lätt att surfa (inte nervös) men samtidigt fantastiskt svängig. Kommer köpa mig en till så snart plånboken ger tillstånd...

Att den Röda skönheten fungerade så bra var nog en kombination av boxiga kanter, väldigt lite rocker men samtidigt en mer klassiskt shortboardform, inte fish med andra ord. En varm rekommendation för alla som väger lite mer.

Men se för guds skull till att inte köpa den från Pukas!!!

SharkBoy skrev:
Qanik skrev:
I have another equipment question that I planed to post on the forum some time. Its about fins.

I have a 6'6", 19 ½ wide Nord Fish-style that I use for about any size waves. I like it for its ability to paddle fast and catch waves easy. My problem is when it gets big like DOH. The flat rocker (i guess) make the board gain shit lodes of speed and kind of sit on top of the water and feel very nervous. I have a set of G3 fins on it which is smaller then normal/recommended (G5), But I like it in most surf.

*If I put bigger fins on to gain stability wouldn't that mean that I would get even more speed?
*Is there anything that I can do to adapt the board for bigger waves?
*I've seen some guns with a bigger center fin, how would that affect the board?

I'm of course thinking of buying a board for HH+ waves, but that question we can take some other time...

Thankful for any input

/Qanik

Bigger fins will cause more drag and will give you more control, you are probably enjoying the stability of the width in the board coupled with the responsiveness of having small fins in the small stuff. But when i'ts bigger, you just aren't sitting in the water deep enough. Much bigger fins will help you out a bit with medium size surf, for a board like that and for a dude over 85 k go with m7 sized fins at least.

You asked about bigger fins making the board go faster, this isn't exactly true, but it is in a sense as well. Fins actually slow you down and cause drag, but because of it, you can project more with them. think of small fins as first gear on a car, a little gas and you get a quick acceleration. With big fins it's more like 5th gear, you have to put in more gas, but then you get out more distance.

Small fins big fins is an interesting topic for small wave surfing. Some people claim that bigger fins are good because in smaller surf you have to project more from the fins, whereas in bigger you project more from the rail (mini gun fins are way smaller than fish fins for example)
But when you get into really minimal conditions, big fins might drag too much before you can even push them (sort of like trying to drive in 5th gear before you are even up to speed)
the solution is simple, if you have a small board, you need to work its responsiveness with small fins in small surf. if you have a fatter, stubbier small wave board, you need to put in more fin to counteract the added bouyancy and help project you. Make sense?

As for putting in a bigger back fin in those nord fishes, (if it's the one i am thinking of which is essentially a copy of the Lost RNF), this is probably not a good idea, those boards were made as down the line skates and are actually probably best ridden with two big side fins and a puny back one. the only reason why you'd want to ride it as a thruster is so you can square your bottom turns a little more backside


This sounds right, even though I don't like to get the fifth gear speed, I have plenty already . I guess that the only way to find out is to try. At the moment I have two sets of finns. the G3s and som bigger carbon ones (gam-x I think). My weight is 75kg. I don't really like the carbon ones, they make the board kind of "kantig". Probably since they are very stiff. I have used them as side fins with a small centre one like you suggested. although I'm not sure the boards are that similar (but I have only seen pics of the RFN). Nord don't make this one anymore, it's more like a hybrid between a fish and a short board, it's to long and narrow to be a fish but still has a lot of the same.

Thanks for the tips, I will try it out. but I guess that another more suitable board is a better solution. I'll get one, but its fun to mess around with fins to.

/Qanik

Qanik skrev:
SharkBoy skrev:
Qanik skrev:
I have another equipment question that I planed to post on the forum some time. Its about fins.

I have a 6'6", 19 ½ wide Nord Fish-style that I use for about any size waves. I like it for its ability to paddle fast and catch waves easy. My problem is when it gets big like DOH. The flat rocker (i guess) make the board gain shit lodes of speed and kind of sit on top of the water and feel very nervous. I have a set of G3 fins on it which is smaller then normal/recommended (G5), But I like it in most surf.

*If I put bigger fins on to gain stability wouldn't that mean that I would get even more speed?
*Is there anything that I can do to adapt the board for bigger waves?
*I've seen some guns with a bigger center fin, how would that affect the board?

I'm of course thinking of buying a board for HH+ waves, but that question we can take some other time...

Thankful for any input

/Qanik

Bigger fins will cause more drag and will give you more control, you are probably enjoying the stability of the width in the board coupled with the responsiveness of having small fins in the small stuff. But when i'ts bigger, you just aren't sitting in the water deep enough. Much bigger fins will help you out a bit with medium size surf, for a board like that and for a dude over 85 k go with m7 sized fins at least.

You asked about bigger fins making the board go faster, this isn't exactly true, but it is in a sense as well. Fins actually slow you down and cause drag, but because of it, you can project more with them. think of small fins as first gear on a car, a little gas and you get a quick acceleration. With big fins it's more like 5th gear, you have to put in more gas, but then you get out more distance.

Small fins big fins is an interesting topic for small wave surfing. Some people claim that bigger fins are good because in smaller surf you have to project more from the fins, whereas in bigger you project more from the rail (mini gun fins are way smaller than fish fins for example)
But when you get into really minimal conditions, big fins might drag too much before you can even push them (sort of like trying to drive in 5th gear before you are even up to speed)
the solution is simple, if you have a small board, you need to work its responsiveness with small fins in small surf. if you have a fatter, stubbier small wave board, you need to put in more fin to counteract the added bouyancy and help project you. Make sense?

As for putting in a bigger back fin in those nord fishes, (if it's the one i am thinking of which is essentially a copy of the Lost RNF), this is probably not a good idea, those boards were made as down the line skates and are actually probably best ridden with two big side fins and a puny back one. the only reason why you'd want to ride it as a thruster is so you can square your bottom turns a little more backside


This sounds right, even though I don't like to get the fifth gear speed, I have plenty already .

Thanks for the tips, I will try it out. but I guess that another more suitable board is a better solution. I'll get one, but its fun to mess around with fins to.

/Qanik

5th gear speed is a more controlled speed, think of trying to drive at 70 with your car in 2nd!

as for double overhead, i don't know what your scale is but it'd be time for a pintail long ago

heey sharky.

Whats the deal with quads? I read that the surf better backside that a twin fin set up. anything els? have you tryed one? are they better for fishstyle boards or for regular shortboards? havnt seen them on any longboard... could it work?

Viva la BOS

freddandson skrev:
heey sharky.

Whats the deal with quads? I read that the surf better backside that a twin fin set up. anything els? have you tryed one? are they better for fishstyle boards or for regular shortboards? havnt seen them on any longboard... could it work?

Viva la BOS

i am sort of divided on the quad to be honest, at times I've surfed better then ever at others, I am eating water and wondering what the fvck?

the quad is without a doubt way faster, but it lacks pivot (think of a skateboard without a tail kick) you need to really rail all turns, including bottom turns, this works good frontside but backside it is harder, especially if the wave requires a short squared snappy bottom turn approach.

Where I have found the quad to be good is in waves that are hard to keep up with that just burn down the line and in backside barrels, for some reason two side fins give you the perfect combination of grip and they also seem to find that optimal trim line almost automatically.

I like my quad for sure, but as soon as you stop rail turning it turns into a slippery bar of soap, I've even been worried about my knees surfing mine

they might be better for fish style boards as they add more traction to rails, mine is a normal shortboard with 4 fins instead of three, if the tail is real wide then it might be a go

and that's all I have to say abou tha at

Qanik skrev:
I have another equipment question that I planed to post on the forum some time. Its about fins.

I have a 6'6", 19 ½ wide Nord Fish-style that I use for about any size waves. I like it for its ability to paddle fast and catch waves easy. My problem is when it gets big like DOH. The flat rocker (i guess) make the board gain shit lodes of speed and kind of sit on top of the water and feel very nervous. I have a set of G3 fins on it which is smaller then normal/recommended (G5), But I like it in most surf.

*If I put bigger fins on to gain stability wouldn't that mean that I would get even more speed?
*Is there anything that I can do to adapt the board for bigger waves?
*I've seen some guns with a bigger center fin, how would that affect the board?

I'm of course thinking of buying a board for HH+ waves, but that question we can take some other time...

Thankful for any input

/Qanik

Qanik min vän...ska till norge ..samma ställe vecka 11 (vågor eller inte)..ska du med?

angående dina frågor om din bräda..skita i att försöka byta fenor på fishen när det blir DOH+..det finns ingen mening att göra det..brädan är helt fel för förhållanden..skaffa ett riktigt big wave bräda..du vägar lika mycket som mig..skaffa en riktig thruster.. runt (ska vi säga) 6'8"-7' lång 18 3/8 bred ...jag skulle föredra att en 6'8"-6'10" lång räcker ..om det blir så stor att man behöver en 7' bräda då vill du inte vara därute iallafall:blink: ..peace man..da ratB)

Bump, känns som denna tråd hamnat långt ner,